{"id":22443,"date":"2022-04-04T06:36:30","date_gmt":"2022-04-04T05:36:30","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/jb365-vip.com\/?p=22443"},"modified":"2022-04-04T11:58:44","modified_gmt":"2022-04-04T10:58:44","slug":"your-time-is-gonna-come-should-we-discount-the-golden-oldies","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/jb365-vip.com\/your-time-is-gonna-come-should-we-discount-the-golden-oldies\/","title":{"rendered":"Your Time is Gonna Come (Should We Discount the Golden Oldies?)"},"content":{"rendered":"\n

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Hats off to (Rob) Eastaway<\/h2>\n\n\n\n

The ICC player ratings were developed in 1986-87, actually at the suggestion of Ted Dexter, who was fascinated by the world golf rankings and which story is entertainingly told by Rob Eastaway on his website <\/a>. Rob is a rare thing, a cool mathematician, who has written a number of books, including the very popular “What’s a Googly?”, famously gifted to President George by John Major at Camp David. Rob also has a podcast, Puzzling Maths<\/em>, having been a maths teacher for much of his adult life.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

One of the most interesting parts of Rob’s website is the link <\/a>to his interview with Jonathan Agnew on TMS. As mentioned above, Eastaway was approached by Ted Dexter in 1986 after the former had written in The Cricketer<\/em> about a computer simulation of a cricket match developed by his friend, Gordon Vince. Dexter was keen to develop a player rating system, and this would be first published as the Deloitte Ratings of Test Cricketers in June of that year.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I’ve used the ICC player ratings extensively when putting together articles for Cricketweb (most significantly this one<\/a>) and also as the basis of certain assessment categories used in the books Masterly Batting<\/em> and Supreme Bowling<\/em>, with Patrick Ferriday<\/a>. One thing I noted was that, in general, modern players were rated higher than Golden Age players, and had always assumed that was because the modern era players were better.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

However, it also seemed that some of the ratings of the older era players when compared with their peers were possibly not what I would have expected. I decided to contact Rob Eastaway and we had a series of emails where I discovered a number of features related to the scaling of the algorithm used to calculate the ratings that aren’t apparent from the ICC’s FAQ. I am grateful to Rob for his time and input.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

In summary, the player’s calculated rating is discounted on a sliding scale from 40% to 70% of his calculated peak for the first ten innings, then 70% to 100% up to the 40th innings. So the maximum rate possible after ten innings would be 700 (based on a theoretical maximum of 1000) and after 25 innings the maximum possible would be 850. From 40 innings upwards, the maximum possible would be 1000, which puts Bradman’s all-time peak of 961 into perspective. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

How many more times?<\/h2>\n\n\n\n

I understand, and accept, that if modern players were apportioned their full rating from scratch then the ratings would be unlikely to represent the general consensus ranking of the best players of all time, as it might be seen to over-estimate the value of those players that start out very hot for a short time.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

However, this may be considered as unfair to the early era players, when far fewer Tests were played. The numbers of Tests played increased by more than 400% between 1920 and 1980, so it would seem some kind of consideration should be given to those early era players. For example, Joe Root played 29 Test innings in 2021 alone; WG Grace played his 29th innings in his 16th year of Test cricket, and Ranji played 24 innings total over his Test career.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So I set about recalculating the ratings of a number of players from around the Golden Age based on the information that Rob had shared with me. I applied an upscaling of each players’ progressive rating, this being based on the ratings graphs available online for each player, up to the 40th innings as noted earlier, thus allowing each player to keep 100% of their calculated rating from the first innings. Note that I’m not recalculating the peak value of the player, and in any case I don’t have access to the nuts and bolts of the algorithm, rather I’m simply removing the discounting applied within the first 40 innings.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Upon completion, I decided to try an experiment, so I asked my colleague and noted cricket historian, Martin Chandler, to rank nine players that played before WW1 or didn’t play many Tests, as shown below:<\/p>\n\n\n\n